paul from cleveland
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Ex JW's - Which Christian denomination are you with now and why?
by Truthexplorer inthis is a question for ex jw's who have joined another christian faith group.
the purpose of my question iis to find out which christian faith group you chose after leaving watchtower and what convinced you to travel this new spiritual path you are on.
i am interested to know because i personally would like to find a genuine faith group where i can feel true christian liberty as i initially thought i had with the witnesses.
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paul from cleveland
I'm still absolutely Christian in the sense of "Do to others as you would have them do to you" but it's not a requirement to belong to a secular denomination to do that. I don't understand why people feel they have to go to some meeting or building on a regular basis to remind them that they're supposed to be nice to each other. Just do the right thing! You already know how God want's you to act. -
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I've been depressed lately.
by Butyoucanneverleave inmy husband and i went to visit his family for the holidays.
not everyone showed for the visit ,the weather was lousy, and it just generally sucked.
now we're back to the same old routine with work and life and we're both depressed and alone.
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paul from cleveland
i struggle with depression too. I think being a witness permanently damages your brain. i've found though that there are a lot of people in the world that are depressed, witness or not. It's very helpful, for me at least, to do something for those that are even worse off than I. I hope this doesn't sound trite but comforting those less fortunate that we are helps. For example, today I went out to lunch with an elderly lady that suffers from loneliness too. She was never a witness. It helps to get out of our own heads some times. -
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Kim and mikeys chanel on YouTube they uploaded a video of more singing and dancing
by Crazyguy inon their chanel they are showing a video of a special assembly day in belgium i believe.
the jws are dancing dressed in black and red, satanic colores.
singing and playing worldly songs and kingdom melodies.
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paul from cleveland
I can't believe this is an assembly. There is no way. This is like the "guitar mass" the Catholic Churches used to have. This must be a wedding or something like that.
If this is really an assembly they've definitely gone "rogue".
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Is the Pioneer School being eliminated?
by wannaexit ini heard from the semi reliable source that the pioneer schools will go the way of the dodo bird next year.. i could see this happening.
it used to be that you went to the the pioneer school once.
then they allowed dubs to go every 5 years.
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paul from cleveland
I don't understand why they even have a designation such as "Pioneer". -
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New York Times article Dec 31 2015
by Gayle inhttp://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/01/nyregion/stalled-brooklyn-park-exposes-rift-with-religious-group.html?_r=0.
jehovahs witnesses have been criticized by community leaders for not fixing up parks in dumbo, brooklyn, as promised.
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paul from cleveland
It's one thing being irresponsible freeloaders in a big city like New York with a population of 8.5 million but how is Warwick going to support them with a population of only 32,000? I hope they've made some arrangement to compensate the city of Warwick for all the services they'll receive (police, fire, extra wear and tear on the roads, etc). I can't imagine even the Watchtower would stoop so low as to place their world headquarters in a small town like Warwick and expect to receive all city services free of charge. -
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Watchtower crackdown on anointed expansion - are they reaching for a solution to the expanding numbers problem?
by slimboyfat inif this has been discussed i missed it.
i think the january study watchtower is a concerted attempt to reduce the numbers claiming to be anointed.
but i love the sneaky way they go about it this time.
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paul from cleveland
Forgive me for not getting it but why wouldn't everyone partake anyway? Even if you buy into the whole two-tiered setup, isn't it supposedly just to remind us of what Jesus did? So so-called "other sheep" supposedly benefit and should "remember" too, right? They could easily "fix" this "problem" with "new light" instructing everyone to partake. -
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Watchtower crackdown on anointed expansion - are they reaching for a solution to the expanding numbers problem?
by slimboyfat inif this has been discussed i missed it.
i think the january study watchtower is a concerted attempt to reduce the numbers claiming to be anointed.
but i love the sneaky way they go about it this time.
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paul from cleveland
I think they're a little trapped. The "proof" for being anointed is the same whether you're a governing body member or not. You just have to take their word for it. Whatever they say would apply equally to themselves. -
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JW mother wants to send her son to a mental institute for being atheist & wanting to go to college
by Khaleesi ini am not sure if this was posted before.
i am the mother of an 10 year old and i would have never treated my son like this for wanting to go to college, believes in evolution & is an atheist...i am disgusted how this jw mother can't see how her son has the freedom of thought or religion.... this poor kid most likely does not do drugs or is in a street gang, he just wants to go to college for crying out loud.... this is insane, just shows how a religion or organization blinds all logic from you... it's a cult..... i know there are many cult jws parents out there who would do this, its insane and disgusting.... where is the love you say you should have towards your children?
this is straight out abuse.... read the article but scroll down for the recording.... .
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paul from cleveland
That woman is mentally diseased. -
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paul from cleveland
Haha, Cognac, I want to do almost the opposite of you. Spend more time at home, gain weight, work less, and stop celebrating holidays out of a sense of obligation. Number 5 is good though. -
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How did you feel on Christmas as a JW child?
by cookiemaster inthis is obviously a question for born-ins like me.
so, how did christmas feel to you as a child?
to me it was awful.
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paul from cleveland
The first Christmas I remember was when I was 5 years old. My mother was a Witness and my father was Catholic. My father had a tradition of putting up the Christmas tree after all my sisters and brother went to sleep on Christmas eve. We got up early Christmas morning, before sunrise, went down to the living room and there was a huge tree with many wrapped presents underneath. The only lights on were the lights on the tree. It was still dark outside so it created such a beautiful glow in the room. I remember how excited I was. We woke up my mother and father to come out so we could open the presents.
Then, just before we started opening presents, I'll never forget what my mother said to me. Her words struck me so hard that I can still remember every detail of that moment. My mother and I were standing in the kitchen and I could see the tree glowing in the living room. There were no lights on in the house except the glow from the lights on the tree. She was wearing a flannel nightgown and I was in my pajamas. I remember exactly where I was standing and can still see the room frozen in my minds eye right down to the decorative white plate of hard "ribbon candy" on the round walnut table behind her. I looked up to her and asked "is it okay to open the presents?" She replied, in a very kind and sincere way: "You can celebrate Christmas but you know how Jehovah feels about that Paul!"
My world forever changed when I heard those words. I instantly felt so torn and guilty. I couldn't enjoy anything after that and started a long descent into depression. Things went downhill from there.